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Adriana
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 Posted - 29 June 2009 : 08:08:25
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A girl I was at primary school with had her hair dyed blonde virtually from birth as her mother was a bottle blonde and it was the only way to maintain the illusion that the mother was a natural blonde...  
It was a bit of a surprise to meet her again at University and discover she was a much a brunette as I am/was (bit grey these days!) |
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snoopy2
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United Kingdom
146 Posts |
Posted - 29 June 2009 : 09:49:43
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OG With a white mother it is genetically possible for all three of MJ's children to be caucasian in colour. All three however will carry dark skin genes which could appear in their children or subsequent generations. Evidence of this is tracing the progeny of negro slave women and white slavemasters. Sometimes it takes generations for 'white' or 'black' progeny to appear. Think of prince Harry - first redhead since Henry V111. Auburn gene been hanging about dormant for hundreds of years.  |
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Kojak
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 June 2009 : 10:43:07
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My grandfather, who died well before I was born, had red hair. This surfaced in 3 cousins and when I grew a beard in my early 20s it was red. I don't have a beard now because I would look like Santa Claus! |
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Ozzie Geoff
Ozzie Geoff
Australia
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Posted - 29 June 2009 : 11:31:10
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Hi Snoopy , I'm no expert on geneology but I don't think it is genetically possible for a 100% African-American man to produce white children with a caucasian mother, to produce 3 out of 3 is a genetic impossibility. I was under the impression that a few generations down the track two "white" people could have a coloured child. Time alone will tell, with the sniff of money a "father" could pop out of the woodwork.
Australin Aboriginals are the only "black" race that completely breeds out. I think being one sixteenth is the cut off blood line for extremely generous Govt. assistance.
Red/Auburn is an odd one & it is quite possible the "Royal Auburn Gene" could have been dormant for centuries, as you so rightly said. My uncle, my mothers brother (b 1914) was auburn, there had never nor has there been a "Coppertop" on either side of the family...that we know of. But, back in the UK in the 1600-1700 century, who knows? I might be related to Henry V111...where's that DNA expert?
Hey Snoopy, strange that red headed Harry is named Henry..
Many moons ago I shaved my mo off when it sprouted grey!!! |
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Richard
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 June 2009 : 12:06:42
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| "I might be related to Henry V111". Arithmetically, we are all related within 6 degrees of cousinry. Yes, I know, I am deeply worried about that as well. |
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Kon
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Australia
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Posted - 29 June 2009 : 12:53:09
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Sounds like our Tasmanians   |
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Ozzie Geoff
Ozzie Geoff
Australia
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Posted - 29 June 2009 : 13:09:37
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Careful Kon, The all powerful moderators will be on to you....for a change!! |
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Kon
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Australia
1266 Posts |
Posted - 29 June 2009 : 13:11:57
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Kojak
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United Kingdom
2411 Posts |
Posted - 29 June 2009 : 14:26:07
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| So... is the convict gene dormant now? |
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snoopy2
Symi Visitor
United Kingdom
146 Posts |
Posted - 29 June 2009 : 16:01:20
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| Lorks was just giving the poor chap the benefit of the doubt and chucking in a little Mendel for good measure. Didn't half stir it up! Whatever their parentage - let's hope the poor wee souls don't turn into the bone, money grabbers want and that MJ's wishes are respected. By the way - i am - or was - a carrot top - blonde mother strawberry blonde father so two recessives (no remarks thank you) had to produce a recessive - (again no smart comments please) |
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MacDuff
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Canada
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Posted - 01 July 2009 : 05:12:51
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Reference to Mendel makes one wonder whether these kids are now has beans As for 'Arry, what a bunch of chauvanists, what about "Arry's uncle Viscount Spencer. Why not red hair, Diana's grandmother Ruth Lady Fermoy, was from Aberdeen. That incidentally is where the Stuart blood came from, not from Charles. As for Good old Henry VIII, where is the relationship between the Plantagenets and the Hanovers |
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Ozzie Geoff
Ozzie Geoff
Australia
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Posted - 01 July 2009 : 07:45:10
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| Marriage, MacDuff... |
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Kojak
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United Kingdom
2411 Posts |
Posted - 01 July 2009 : 09:42:54
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| Stuart blood also came from Prince Charles through Sophia of Hanover , daughter of Elizabeth of Bohemia (The Winter Queen) who was the daughter of James 1st. Henry VII married Elizabeth of York to consolidate his claim to the English throne so the Plantagenet line did survive, if very tenuously. |
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MacDuff
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Canada
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Posted - 02 July 2009 : 06:08:54
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| Well, the last of the Plantagenets was Richard III (no relation of our birthday lad?), to be followed by the Tudors, yes, Richard III and Henry VII were distant cousins. Henry VIII was kind of lucky to become King as he was a second son, his first marriage was to the widow of his older brother, Katherine of Aragon and most of us know the olde rhyme: Divirced, beheaded, died. Divorced, beheaded, survived. The daughter of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, married James IV of Scotland, their son was James V of Scotland, father of Mary Queen of Scots, the mother of James VI of Scotland, James I of England. Yes, George I was a grandson of the Winter Queen of Bohemia who was a daughter of James I (VI). As an aside, living at that time was the son of James II, James, barred from succession because he was a Roman Catholic and father of Bonnie Prince Charlie. But red hair throught the Hannovers? Oh incidentally I am unaware of any red hair in the Bowes Lyon family (Queen Mum). No, I think the red hair comes from the Spencer/Fermoy link (her maiden name was Gill). |
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maziemoo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 July 2009 : 18:55:48
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and so back to Michael Jackson..........
It would seem that as predicted the drama that surrounded him in life also surrounds him in death with claim and counter claim over who is responsible e.g. his doctors for prescribing so many drugs....for goodness sake this guy was 50 years old and capable of making his own (granted sometimes misguided) decisions including about the drugs he chose to use (or abuse). It could be argued he shouldn't have been prescribed them, but I doubt he'd have been prescribed anything that didn't seem appropriate at some time or other.
And as for the public viewing of his body or not as the case may be..well thank heavens for some common sense and dignity.
I was sad to start with but enough already, I'm actually more concerned about my frail old dad suffering from depression and catching swine flu although it's more likely to hit my generation than his. |
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